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When I was a teenager, I briefly dabbled in being vegetarian. I was a Jehovah’s Witness. I believed in good and evil, in those who were saved and those who were marked.
As such, I was a prime candidate to become a vegetarian. Inhumane factory farming techniques were not on my radar at the time. It was simply right or wrong to eat another animal, and I decided it must be wrong.
I began a short-lived but steady diet of kidney beans, tofu, and brown rice. I had the constant feeling of being “starving, but full” while having absolutely no energy. I farted more than the old guy that sat next to me on my last Greyhound bus trip. Yes, more than that guy, more than all of those guys.
No doubt I also wanted to feel that I had some semblance of control over a world which seemed so unrelentingly cruel, so out of balance. Being vegetarian helped calm me. Surely, we couldn’t actually live in a world where things die, could we?
After about two weeks, I mindlessly sat down on a chair in front of the open refrigerator and like an anemic zombie, I ate every piece of egg out of the potato salad my mother had stored in a Tupperware lettuce crisper. Then I ate all the leftover ham, and I don’t even like ham. Being a vegetarian wasn’t working.
For years I’ve wondered why. “I guess I just hate puppies!” I told myself while chewing on the crispy brown ear-ends of my latest ex-beagle.
Recently I began a modified paleo diet, which means that all my meals basically consist of a salad with salmon and an apple, no rice or bread. Boring, yes. But I feel amazing! It suddenly clicked: Oh, this is why I never became a vegetarian! It’s not for any philosophical reason. It’s not because I don’t love animals. It’s been a survival mechanism all along. My body can’t handle it, and my stomach instinctively knew that.
There were also the philosophical misgivings. I was being made to feel guilty, brainwashed into thinking I was a bad person for eating meat. But I never could make much sense of that argument; it seemed to prey on my basest emotions and not on logic.

Some roadblocks included:
…Vegetarians look down on people who eat meat but love all other animals who eat meat. Hey, you know who ruthlessly tears apart other animals and then plays with them as they die alone in pain? Cats!
…Being vegetarian is a first-world luxury but is treated as a moral imperative. There is no mock duck in Zimbabwe (there are termites and crickets), but somehow it’s the western white people who get treated with condescension.
…The sneering assumption that eating a chicken is the same as eating a cat or dog. Well, if you want to pretend there is no distinction between lower and higher sentient life forms, then I hope you’ve never taken antibiotics, because you are a murderer.
But these philosophical misgivings alone wouldn’t have been enough to keep me from being a vegetarian if I actually felt that it would be a healthy lifestyle for me.
A full day of vegetarian meals will impart on me what I can only describe as a general “wheat malaise.” I appreciate the idea of not eating other living things, but I also—mainly—appreciate the idea of not giving myself chronic fatigue syndrome and severe gastritis. I promise you that absolutely nothing on this planet makes me sicker than a whole-wheat wrap and nutritional yeast. In fact, why not just open up my legs and shove cottage cheese right into my vadge-hole, because that is what my pussy will look like in a week. And that discharge isn’t going to be tofu-based.
I would hypothesize that many vegetarians find it pleasurable to stop eating meat because that way of eating conforms to their body type. They feel so damn good and energetic, they can’t understand why anyone else on God’s wheatgrass-green Earth would want to keep eating meat.
Oh, your vegan cheese is “actually creamier” than regular cheese? Allow me to alert all of France!
It doesn’t occur to the fundamentalist vegetarian that we’re all different. We’re different colors and we’re different creeds and different people have different needs. Sorry vegetarians, but not everyone is vegetarian. People are people.

Yes, I love animals, but I love and respect myself more. I enjoy having a regular menstrual period and enough energy to climb stairs. I suffer from hypoglycemia and, as such, I crave protein and fat, which takes longer to be absorbed by the excess insulin. In order to “cause no harm,” I would actually be harming myself. Yes, I prefer to buy cage-free eggs and sustainable seafood when I can, but not when I’m unemployed and wild salmon is $17/pound. Ya know?
I concede that it is probably more “good” than “evil” to be vegetarian, whatever that means, but only if we are rating things on a some naive romantic movie scale. In reality, good and evil are unfortunately relative.
So instead of judging others by your personal standards, maybe you should just be constantly 100% 24-hours-a-day really fucking grateful that you live in a country where you have the option to be vegetarian.
And you’re welcome, said the cosmic lottery.
I am in no way averse to those who choose to live a vegetarian lifestyle. I have friends who are vegetarian and I respect their choice not to eat meat. I also don’t eat meat in front of them because I’m not a mannerless uncouth asshole.
But when a condescending vegan passive aggressively insinuates that I’m a bad person for eating meat, all I hear is: “Fuck you and how you feel. You should hurt yourself. I only care about birds.”
I don’t judge other people for not eating meat, so why would you judge me because I do? Here, we have reached an impasse. You know who you are!
You: the self-righteous vegan who considers themselves somehow morally superior. You shit yourself and blow your nose and get cancer just like the rest of us. You’re just another person in a long string of disposable people who are alive but mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. In fact, you cause harm to this Earth simply by virtue of being on it. You’re not special. You’re not good.
In reality, all you are currently doing is failing at the one simple thing that humans actually have to do to get along: that is, to be nice to one another. Instead, you are rude. You are selfish. You are full of hate. You impart nothing to this world but negativity and stress. Maybe we should eat you.
Still, the spoiled squeals of this loud, self-centered minority have nothing to do with the reason I’m not a vegetarian. I would eat soyyeasttempehquorn protein wraps day and night if it felt right.
I’m not a vegetarian because I’m just not. I’m an omnivore. I’m a human. And I love animals. But I eat some of them. But not all of them. And not all the time. Like humans do. So stop being a cunt about it on Facebook.

I was high fiving you and nodding my head yes through this whole article until you got to the part about not eating meat in front of your vegetarian friends because you’re not an asshole. I eat what I eat, I don’t dance around with pig eyeballs hanging off of skewers singing about how delicious dead pigs are(which they are), but I make no apologies for eating meat to my vegetarian friends. This does not make me an asshole.
^^^What Caffeine said..fuck them if they offended vegetarians/vegans are some of the biggest fucking pussies on this planet. Also, I srsly LOL’d at this part: ” And that discharge isn’t going to be tofu-based.”
great article, and i also agree with caffeine’s comment… When was the last time you went to a vegetarians house and they offered you a non-vegetarian option? Never.
Great Article, but I only partly agree with this article!
I really agree on the fact that intolerance will just make things worse and that eating meat may be necessary for the health of some people. If you have some health troubles then yes you’re right, you’re not doing something morally wrong !
Okay, so meat is necessary for some people, but is eating meat everyday necessary?
However, is it righteous to always eat meat because “vegetables taste bad” ? I think this is another point you should have raised. Eating meat for your health is one thing, chosing it over vegetables for the taste sounds way more selfish to me… but maybe one day somebody will have arguments to convince me of the contrary!
I am not completely vegetarian ; I’ve dropped my meat consumption from 1 or 2/day to 1/week. Indeed everyone being vegetarian is not a viable option, but the world cannot keep going at that pace with meat consumption… I think the only option for the future is in-vitro meat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat). The fact of being vegetarian is not only about emotions on the living conditions of cattle. The farming industry is one of the most polluting ones, and 1 year of bath everyday consumes as much water as a few lunches eating meat (not talking about water contamination, oil,…). So even beyond animal living conditions there are a whole lot of legit environmental arguments!
Of course, the production of vegetables consumes resources too, but way less.
And yes, Chickens are incredibly dumber than dogs and cat. But most people who compare meat to dogs and cat mostly talk about cows, pork, rabbit, lamb… I personally can’t even see the difference in cuteness between kittens and lambs ! I don’t understand people accepting to eat those animals but refusing to eat dog… And even if their judgement is done solely on cuteness (after all everything is based on appearance nowadays), then I can’t understand why they still eat rabbits or lambs… Maybe somebody could explain it to me !
But interesting article
Thanks for the comments. By way of explanation, I don’t eat meat every day by any means, so it’s not a big deal to avoid meat in front of my vegetarian friends, and the emphasis here is on *friend*, that is, these are people I love and respect so it’s no skin off my back to order saag paneer instead of beef saag, especially when I enjoy the vegetarian version of the dish anyway. But if it was just some random Joe Shmoe, I wouldn’t change my eating habits. I cook tofu and Quorn at home, it’s just that a steady diet of it doesn’t agree with me. It’s in the rotation because I love to cook, so I make all different types of things. I’m definitely an omnivore, not strictly a carnivore.
I also think one of the main reasons people don’t eat dogs is because they evolved alongside us, and we were useful to each other. We help them get food and they help protect us. Even my cat would alert me if someone was breaking into the house. My parakeets, on the other hand, are so dumb that when I let them out of the cage, they just fly into the wall and fight with each other. From an evolutionary perspective, I think there are some animals we needed more than others.
I’ve net yet meet an obnoxious, preachy, condescending vegetarian in real life. I see plenty of them online and in the media, but the real live veggies I know aren’t preachy or obnoxious about it. I do know a couple who are whiney hypochondriac veggies, but they’re not friends, just people who happen to travel in some of the same circles I’m in, and I avoid them as much as possible.
Fully agreed, in particular with the bit about vegetarianism being a first-world luxury. Indeed, it’s not even a luxury for every citizen of industrialized nations. I think about this a lot when people tell me I need to purchase expensive, earth-friendly stuff…starts to look more like a competition than self-sacrifice. What would you tell the single mother of three who struggles to keep shoes on her kids’ feet? After forcing her to take a drug test and a humiliating background check in order to get food stamps, of course!
I also am NOT a vegetarian. Having recently been diagnosed with a digestive autoimmune disorder, I have adopted a Paleo/Atkins diet. Wheat and their ilk are poison to me. I also find the a lot of vegetarians are SO self-righteous to a fault and not fun to be around. They shop at Whole Foods and turn their nose up at other stores as they are “full of carcinogens” When I have to shop for alternative flours, I see these people at the health food stores who look like extras in the “Twilight” saga movies—VERY CREEPY! They “adopt” an earth friendly attitude—in their dreams ha ha. They are judgmental and hateful. Forget about having a friendly drink with these folks—their anger is really scary. They are usually rich and white. They have never heard of such foods as smoked neck bones and beans. They wear expensive “earth friendly” clothing. I shop at Target, Food 4 Less, and the Goodwill. I am happy and healthy. I try to be friendly to all and not judge them. Don’t do the same to us omnivores.
First world luxury? I’d say the paleo diet/eating meat everyday is a first world luxury.
The worst is going to a place to eat with a paranoid veggie. This dude took five minutes, legit, to order his meal. He had to personalize everything, interrogate the waitress. It wasn’t even a meat or animal based dish either. Rice and beans and other shit. I tried the veggie route too for almost a year, didn’t agree with me. Went full blown Super Saiyan when I had a Ribeye. I tried that Paleo diet too for awhile, high fat, protein, and low carbs, didn’t agree with me either. I’m supposed to eat balanced as far as fat, protein and carbs. I still don’t eat grains much though, other than beer. Now if only I could kick these fucking Mexican imported Coca-Colas… crack in a bottle.
Meh. Why are you talking about vegans? You do know that vegans and vegetarians are different, right? Vegans are those pale, pasty people who eat wood and wear plastic shoes. Make a fucking effort, eh? Know your enemy. I’ve been a vegetarian more than half my life, and y’know what? I’m a fat bastard. Trust me, there’s fuck-all wrong with my diet. I eat like a fucking pig. I just skip the meat. Right, so you’d better duck now, because I’m going all the way in until I hit bone.
Ever since I made the purely personal choice to stop eating meat, I have had more sanctimonious, idiotic shit from carnivores than I could possibly recount on here; bush-league shit like, “If you’re a vegetarian, why are you wearing leather shoes?” I mean, have you ever been in the same room as someone who wears pleather shoes 24/7 when they take them shits off? It’s worse than standing downwind of someone who lives on a diet of McDonalds when they drop their guts. Then there are those fucknuts who run up on you with their burger or their bacon sandwich and go, “Mmmmmm, lovely, juicy meat…” So fucking what? Enjoy your burger, your chicken, your jerk pork, your fish kebab, whatever. Knock yourself out. I honestly, seriously, couldn’t give a fuck. My girl isn’t a veggie, and I’ve cooked meat and fish for her plenty of times.
So you’re unfortunate enough to have met a lot of smug, self-righteous veggies with a questionable grasp of reality. Call the fucking cops. Being a smug, self-righteous carnivore doesn’t make you less of a dickwallet. An attitude like yours, it’s no fucking wonder you’re an asshole magnet. I’m cool with those people who don’t have the constitution to go without their meat, just as I’m cool with them not wanting to think too deeply about how it ended up on their plate. I understand that completely. That shit is a matter for you and your conscience. Me? I don’t wag the finger, I don’t lecture anyone about their dietary choices and I certainly don’t think what I do or don’t eat makes me a better, smarter human being. If you can’t extend me the same courtesy, then how about you just eat your steak and shut the fuck up. You’re welcome.
Probably the best stated case for omnivorism I’ve come across with a dash of punitive reprimand to boot. Laudable.
As a vegetarian who can’t stand most vegetarians I wholeheartedly agree. I’m going to post this on facebook and get ready to be abused.
Also; That Mitchell and Web Look have something to say on the topic of shared catering arrangements with Vegetarians: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ
Dear Kyria,
Great to hear that your Menstrual cycle is going well.
Signed
TMI
How do vegetarians rationalize blow jobs? :O
That Mitchell and Webb piece was great!
Munzini — I really tried to be metered with this piece. If you read it again, I think you’ll see that I wasn’t being a smug self-righteous carnivore. That wasn’t the intention.
There ain’t nothin wronnnngggg with a little beans and rice
My point was that Kyria insinuated that eating meat in front of a vegetarian makes you a “manner less, uncouth asshole”
uncle wah wah made me laugh
jesus, every time an acquaintance learns I don’t eat meat I get this spiel, and it’s like, guess what? I don’t care why you can’t be veggie! Please stop being so goddamn self-conscious about your life choices! also, can we just never talk about protein ever again? If you’re not my doctor, fuck off.
Kyria, you literally made me google your name and search for you on Twitter so I can follow you. Fucking perfect article but I also eat meat like a savage in front of all Veg/Vegan’s. Those assholes can lick my balls.
who cares
I luckily don’t know many militant vegetarians. I know a vegan that never says a word to anyone. He’s also the sickliest person I know.
Kyria,
I loved your article. The vegan has an answer for wheat malaise – you’re gluten intolerant so you have to go to a high raw diet. This is what they told me when I had the same thing. So basically, eat only produce. No beans, grains of any kind, and so on. It didn’t work either. I agree Paleo Diet rocks. Good luck!
Good article, but please don’t pigeon-hole all vegetarians (which I am) as being condescending assholes. I have absolutely no problem with people eating meat in front of me, and don’t expect anyone else to conform to my choices. I’m sorry you’ve met some asshole vegetarians, but I’m sure you’ve come across some nicer ones too, but you wouldn’t know they were because they’re not vocal about it.
This is one of the least well-reasoned and completely naive rants (and I’ve by now read lots of them) on the internet. It screams of entitlement, immaturity, and ME-ism.
The level of maturity of the anti-veggie comments here is telling, and expected, on the internet
from the type of people that haven’t matured enough to be able to reason above the level of a 5 year old (I want! I want! I want! Don’t threaten me cause .. I want!