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Starting in about five years, there may be a war so massive that we’re all gonna fuckin’ die. OK, maybe not all of us, but surely a fuck-ton will.
Starting in about five years, there may be a war so massive that we’re all gonna fuckin’ die. OK, maybe not all of us, but surely a fuck-ton will. It’ll all start to sink in when you read about a little thing called CRISIS WAR.
Although it sounds like a Syracuse STRH8edge band, Crisis War is, by far, a more worldly and life-changing affair. You’ve heard of it before in a few of its American incarnations: the US Revolution, the US Civil War, the WWII. These are wars that were fought on a scale so prodigious that all participants were at its mercy. No one had any idea what the outcome was going to be and they put every resource they could muster into making sure they won. Just take a look at how desperate DubyaDubyaTwo got: scrap drives and rationing, Kamikaze pilots, the Blitz, Enola fucking Gay. Sounds real fun, huh? Well control yourself, sociopath, because we’ll all get our piece of the action soon enough; the cycle of Crisis War is approximately every 70-90 years. That’s when the generation that fought the last one dies out and our social consciousness forgets all about the death, hell, and misery it put itself through. That pretty much starts around … 2015.
So what’s the deal with the Korean, Vietnam, Gulf, Iraq, and Afghan Wars, you may wonder? Well, these are non-Crisis Wars. They didn’t or don’t pack as much genocidal punch as a Crisis War because they are fought on a reasonably small and containable scale, respectively. No one was or is deliberately bombing the socks off of the civilian population. They also lack a unified population which fully endorses and supports the war effort. So shut up about those.
To understand the cycle better you have to know a little about Generational Dynamics, a pseudosociopolitcobop which actually appeals to common sense. There are four generational archetypes in GD which repeat, in the same order, over and over again, through time and space and what have you. Here are those four revolving archetypes, in order, and examples of each:
HERO (the Greatest Generation/WWII)
ARTIST (the Silent Generation)
PROPHET (Fuck off, Boomers)
NOMAD (Generation X)
With a general high school knowledge of American history, you can conjure up a basic idea of how these archetypal handles apply to each generation, without me ranting on any further and spilling my beer. Did I lose you? Well, don’t worry. Because all you need to know is that Generation Y n’ Z is fucked sideways, as they’re the next HERO generation who has the shit-eating duty of defending us geezers come DubyaDubyaThree. And I have no qualm playing the fuckin’ pogue, because China is ready to bang.
[Gavin note: Personally, I fucking hate this doom and gloom shit and think it is all a big lie. We've never lived longer. Food's never been more plentiful or healthier. Life's been getting better since day one but media is based on "if it bleeds it leads" so this myth keeps getting airplay. Less is bleeding, there's just more people talking about it so it seems like more. This mistake has been going on since way before Nietzsche and is all explained in the book The Idea of Decline in Western History.
However, Mike really outdid himself on the setup here and wrote a great piece so I let Arv put it up despite it's fundamental fallacy. Free speech is a bitch.]
Fuck, this is just what I need.
I dont think the states are a concern for china since they pretty much owns all of Americas debt and so exist somewhat symbiotically(although ultimately in control) with the states. I think mass global armed conflicts are a thing of the past and mass death will come at the hands of economic wars, sanctions and smaller armed conflicts.
“I have no qualm playing the fuckin’ pogue, because China is ready to bang,” is a lovely sentence.
Time will tell whether the lack-of-imagination that is war wins out, or if we can successfully imagine an alternative. Not that I wouldn’t mind watching some of those snotty Gen-Y and Z’ers get a little sense beat into ‘em through global catastrophe. But only in my more hateful moments.
Generation Y is rapidly approaching the age where they are not draftable, or good grind up meat.
There’s never going to be another world war on the scale of WWII, as the world economies are by far too interconnected to deal with the repercussions of full scale war.
I say watch out for aliens before going to war with China.
I love how he says the Korean war wasn’t a crisis war. Yeah, if you’re an American or a Kiwi or part of the Turkish navy. On the other hand, if you’re Korean 2.5 million civilians killed or wounded kind of maybe constitutes a bit of a crisis.
This is all fine and good and dandy but it revolves on one wavering premise: that our generation will resemble every one before it. Which, of course, in some ways it will. But in other ways it will not.
Ultimately, the US wouldn’t be able to pull off a large scale, ‘real’ war because its citizens wouldn’t let it happen. For christ,s sakes, they won’t even let their president help them pay for medicine, or lay off lazy and inefficient auto workers. Remember the large-scale demonstrations against Iraq? Now imagine it was a war with real, short-term and direct consequences for even a substantial minority of the population (I mean, apart from poor people).
Besides, America has internalized its war process. That’s why when the Cold War ended they had to find someone else. It had become a part of the American economy, and mindset. Instead of risking losing it all in large-scale combat, they just fight one or more small-scale wars on a permanent basis. It keeps the printers running, lets off some nationalist steam and generally reinforces the system without rocking the boat, in a cold, cunning, Nineteen Eighty-Four kind of way.
Believe me, I’m all for letting loose the dogs of war… in a sadistic sort of way a good bloodletting now and then is like pruning the branches of the tree of humanity. But, as teh quote says, I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but I know that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Well, the last couple of generations could use a good weeding out…
Can you believe how contrived that crowd is on the minor threat clip? fuck i’m glad i missed out on that shit
Well I’ve been doing bumps since noon and listening to MOP’s “Ante Up” on repeat so I too am ready to bang.
Looks like someone just read The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe. Great book. Great points.
The unraveling feels nice.
“So what’s the deal with the Korean, Vietnam, Gulf, Iraq, and Afghan Wars, you may wonder?… No one was or is deliberately bombing the socks off of the civilian population.”
You might want to rethink that last bit.
shitapoo
China’s ready to bang, eh? They’ll need some better tunes. Casio keyboard stabs = karaoke, not war
Come on people Peace love and harmony will win the day.
http://www.kunstler.com/spch_petrocollapse.html
Drop the bomb. I’ve had enough.
Oh how I wish the original PROPHET youtube vid wasn’t taken down by the user before this post. It was a film taken AFTER Woodstock, with all the garbage left behind, except for a couple dirtbags eating a watermelon. The background music was Hendrix. It was the fucking climax.
@blobbing
It’s true, these wars have civilians being bombed. But Dresden? The Blitz? Bombing paper-town Tokyo with incendiary bombs? ENOLA fn GAY? C’mon, huge difference.
@sir fagsalot
You’re being sarcastic, right? That show was in Camden NJ and had a biker gang working security (as I’ve read). Contrived or not, I miss a true jersey mosh. Last one (I can remember) that felt almost as good as the MT looks, is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l05nhsNnqbw
And don’t even go there– I was stoned as shit at this show– so eat that audio, you jerk!
Free Speech U-S-A!!
this is pathetic. if this article were part of a conversation we were having, i’d smack the shit out of you. probably after i walked away from you for being a fool. yea, i would walk back over when you try to prove your point to the next retard, and then i would smack the shit out of you.
@i would smack you.
its tongue in cheek, retard. (it’s. a. joke. hint. fucking. hint.)
read this bullshit for yourself, you simple jerk.
http://www.generationaldynamics.com/ww2010.htm
oh and i only called you a retard because you called yourself one first. learn to proofread.
Gavin, its not so much that it’s gonna happen, it just needs to happen.
With all those world wars from before the planet got some good ol fashion genocide which helped provide more jobs and more food for people. Srsly, this planets fucked with this much people.
its not tongue in cheek if i read it on street boners!! is it? in any case my point is that if you tried to tongue in cheek me with your bullshit here, in a social setting, you would deserve a smack. fuck your proofread.
you still called yourself a retard.