I attended Rutgers University in Jersey for a year before I had to leave. I was paying $6,000 a year on top of $3,000 in loans, so when they told me they were going to up my tuition I told them to fuck off.
I attended Rutgers University in Jersey for a year before I had to leave. I was paying $6,000 on top of $3,000 in loans, so when they told me they were going to up my tuition, I told them to fuck off. I came back to the city, pissed away six months of my life, then started attending Baruch College. The cost of my education went from $9,000 a year to -$4,000. I was getting paid to go to class, and the only real difference was instead of drinking in a 12×12 concrete cell of a dorm in New Brunswick, I was drinking in a bar around the corner from my school in Gramercy.
Taking all this into consideration leads me to a poignant question: Exactly what the fuck was I paying for during that first year?
With full tuition at $21,776, Rutgers isn’t even that bad. New York University is $37,372 and can go as high as $60k — which is, as has been said here before, the equivalent of buying a brand new Porsche and driving it off a cliff again and again every year. If a millionaire did that four years in a row, he’d be worldwide news. Compared to Baruch ($5,760), NYU is at least seven times more expensive, but what exactly is the difference?
PROFESSORS
In the late ’80s, NYU decided to act like the NY Yankees and just buy the most expensive staff they could possibly find. They didn’t have the money to do it, so they just jacked tuition fees through the roof. It was a fucking stupid and reckless move, but it worked. Kids saw people like Derek Jeter teaching Madonna “21st Century Fucking” and assumed the price was right. Problem is, these teachers also freelance at the cheap colleges — sometimes they even teach the same fucking course! Last semester I had a class with the writer Francine Prose, who simultaneously taught the same course at both Baruch and NYU. Also, there are a ton of great teachers who end up working solely for public colleges because of the lax obligations, white liberal guilt or sheer repugnance of NYU kids.
STUDENTS
While NYU is full of rich, white douche bags playing Ché, Baruch is packed to the brim with minorities. That’s not to say NYU doesn’t have any minorities; it’s just that NYU has the ones whose parents already own a deli, corner store or bodega, and Baruch has the ones who just got here. Either way, an Advanced Calculus course at NYU or Baruch is going to look like it’s being taught in Beijing or Calcutta, so who cares? Also, while Baruch is full of FOBs learning, NYU has fobs teaching. No highly educated person is going to cross an ocean to work for the packets of Ramen and plastic sporks that Baruch passes off as professors’ salaries. It’s one thing when the kid next to you smells like he bathes in curry; it’s another when you can’t make out what your English teacher said because he can’t get his Rs and Ls straight.
REPUTATION
People inevitably resort to the argument that NYU’s reputation warrants its price tag, that someone with an NYU degree will get picked for a job over someone else with a plebeian diploma.
That’s bullshit. If you’re applying to a job that only requires a Bachelor’s degree, the person who’s hiring you doesn’t care about the name on the diploma as long as it isn’t Ashwood University. The person hiring you only cares about: A. how you act during the interview (guys), and B. what you’re wearing (girls). And if you’re going on to one of those grad schools that weigh GPAs from “top tier” universities more than community colleges, it matters even less. Community colleges are easier, so your GPA will be higher anyway. (That’s the whole point of weighing them differently.)
Lastly, most people don’t even end up going into the same field they studied in college, thus making their degree moot. I mean, look at Gavin and Derrick. They both have degrees, but they spend their time making esoteric videos that nobody understands.
I went to brooklyn college and got a totally sweet job because I am a super mack , and I only owe 6k? Also lots of jew babes and the occasionally hot japanese chick.
arvind you are routinely the best poster on here – + i picked Baruch to take it all in my march “madness” bracket!
A+ work Arvind. Keep it up!
I went to CCNY. I wonder where I’ll go to grad school. Probably another CUNY school. At least this time I can blame the economy.
i go to canadian university.
because i was a keener in high school and first year, i think so far i’ve only paid about $1000 per year to be here. not too bad.
next year is kinda gonna suck though, no more scholarship for me.
I have been having the worst day ever, but when i clicked the “making esoteric videos nobody understands” and saw Beckles looking like Balky Bartokomous from Perfect Strangers and whatever his name is’s shitty ass grin i laughed my ass. consider my day turned around…thanks.
this was pointless.
60k is not a very good porsche, if it can even buy one
What are interviewers really looking for in prospective candidates? Someone who is NOT smart enough to take their job. This piece is actually funny and useful by the way.
nyu is okay. kids are gay but its fun
Bands with members from NYU:
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs
The Strokes
Interpol
Other notable alumni:
Spike Lee
Martin Scorsese
Woody Allen
Adam Sandler
Kevin Smith
@vegan fools
Kevin Smith never went to NYU. He went to some college in Canada then decided to drop out half way through because he realized he could spend the money he was wasting on that school on an actual film.
& that was your routine cleaning with meaty mental floss for the day.
Also, you forgot Kaki King- the sexiest most talented lesbian in history (next to Portia de Rossi)
sensible.
your country makes me laugh,
up to $60,000 for NYU?
i went to cambridge and it was capped at £3145 per year of study, which is currently around $4,500 dollars.
NOT to be rude but, a cambridge degree can dick over a NYU degree, and its immediate family.
hey KV, was it cambridge that taught you to be a snarky elitist english bitch?
yeah it was.
That’s quite the line-up of NYU “notable alumni” you’ve got there Jules. I’m guessing from that alone that NYU has a world-class program in “How to Be a Completely Annoying Little Shit.”
blake schwarzenbach went to nyu.
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Department of Eagles
to kat: you continue studying english, yes?
&vegan-jules: what’s your point?
Let me break this down for your dumb ass: You know how candy bars used to be ten cents but now they’re a dollar or so? That’s kind of how NYU is, without the inflation factor. You do realize Allen, Scorsese, and Lee are FUCKING OLD right? When they went there it was affordable. Then, like the author mentioned, when NYU realized they could start being assholes and charging a dillion dollars per year, they did.
So… mentioning them as some sort of “credibility” towards the university doesn’t make sense.
I WAN TO GO TO BRITISH ART SCHOOLS. HOME OF PETE TOWSEND AND FREDDY MERCURY AND MICK JAGGER TOO!
i dated a girl going to nyu stern business school. it was around $100k/year for two years and she was doing most of it by loans. however, just before graduation, i went out with her and her business school friends and they were comparing starting salaries and likely bonuses for their FIRST jobs out of college which they had already landed before graduating. The comparison went from $150K to $500K.
I wonder if a Baruch business school degree pays off like that.
I also wonder if today’s NYU stern grads are totally fucked because of the economy!
Lemme say: Arvind’s posts are alright and I would like to see more of them.
That said is there anyone out there who really needs to be told NYU is, for the most part, a rip-off? Who doesn’t know this?
And I think it’s all relative to what you can expect when you graduate as fleddy points out.
Sure 100k per year may seem like a rip off when you’re contrasting your per dollar value against Baruch, but when you’re pretty much re-couping all of your debt in your first year out of college, based strictly on the fact you have the cache of a NYU business degree, with a starting pay of 150k plus it sounds like a good investment. So I disagree when it comes to the name brand argument. Maybe it doesn’t matter if you’re gonna graduate with a general BA in English or some shit, but at the higher end it really does matter, especially in business where everything is an old boys club.
I also wonder how many NYU students are actually paying their own way through school. I don’t live in NY so I don’t know, but the external perception is that the student body at NYU is comprised of upper class white kids who are rocking out on mom and pop’s dime. If this is the case then I’m sure their concern over tuition fees is about as sincere as my concern over the price of groceries when I was living at home and my parents did all the shopping and cooking.
you guys are boring.
NYU is such an easy target.
how about trying to write this article from the other side?
This article is fucking lame. Picks an overly easy target, describes the obvious ‘problems’, and explains it all in an unfunny post that is meant to have a snarky yet sensible tone.
FAIL.
You sound like a fag trying to sell yourself on the fact that you couldn’t afford to go to NYU so it’s all a lot of “overpriced bullshit” anyway.
Good luck at Baruch.
Enjoy posting here on SC two years from now pointing out some other obvious yet sensible shit while my buddies at NYU business are fucking your girlfriend in the backseat of their real Porsche’s.
..i like school..
I do agree that no one from NYU is going to get a job before you do but only because no one getting a bachelors degrees from NYU cares about competing for the crappy jobs you will be applying for, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much dude.
Although from reading these comments I would totally give you a job before any Cambridge douches.
No you’re right. I went to NYU. I’m totally fucked. Now I go to London art school. I’m equally fucked. Anyways, I’m just doing my best and trying to live my dreams. Success is strange, a bit of a crapshoot, and a bit of something called relativism. We’re all in it for ourselves, there’s gonna be winners and losers in every set.
contemplating such issues makes me double check the status of my portuguese citizenship.
As long as I have my good looks I shall be fine. Besides all business schools are fucked because of the economy. The kids that will graduate soon are going to be competing with the laid off people who have way more experience.
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Hey, dumbasses, Baruch is a public college, otherwise known as a state school, NOT a community college.
Famous people who dropped out of College:
John Steinbeck
Bill Gates
Richard Branson
Elton John
Anita Grandik
Heywood Jublowmybigcok
I have an English degree from a state school, which reminds me – where the fuck is my Gavin Asshole DVD?